“TNT’s Snowpiercer”
A frozen earth and 3000 people on a train 1001 cars long.
By Patrick Donovan – Author/Screenwriter
US Navy Disabled Veteran – 1980 – 1991
Seattle, WA (The Hollywood Times) 04/17/2020
“Are you a 1st Class, 2nd Class, 3rd Class or a Tailie? On Snowpiercer it’s a class system and there’s no room and no privacy unless you’re 1st or 2nd Class. Mr. Wilford has eyes on everything and knows that labor is sacred for a train like Snowpiercer to run effectively. Are you up for the challenge? Can you keep doing what is necessary or be replaced by one of the 400 tailies that are dying to come forward?”
– Wilford Industries Hospitality
About Snowpiercer:
Snowpiercer is an American post-apocalyptic dystopian thriller television drama series that premiered on TNT on May 17, 2020. It is based on both the 2013 South Korean-Czech film of the same name, directed by Bong Joon-ho, and the 1982 French graphic novel Le Transperceneige, from which the film was adapted, by Jacques Lob, Benjamin Legrand, and Jean-Marc Rochette.
The series, a reboot of the film’s continuity, follows the passengers of the Snowpiercer, a gigantic, perpetually moving train that circles the globe carrying the remnants of humanity seven years after the world becomes a frozen wasteland. The series questions class warfare, social injustice, and the politics of survival. Daveed Diggs and Jennifer Connelly star alongside Mickey Sumner, Annalise Basso, Sasha Frolova, Alison Wright, Benjamin Haigh, Roberto Urbina, Katie McGuinness, Susan Park, Lena Hall, Sheila Vand, Sam Otto, Iddo Goldberg, and Jaylin Fletcher. Rowan Blanchard, Steven Ogg, and Sean Bean will also join the main cast in the second season.
While in development at TNT for over three years, the series faced numerous production issues and delays arising from creative differences between the series’ producers and the network. The series remained in development hell until May 2019, when it was announced that the series would instead air on TNT’s sister network TBS for a spring 2020 release, and that it was already renewed for a second season. However, in September 2019, the decision to change networks was reversed.
The Review:
I love trains! I have since I was a child. My father got my brother and I an H.O. gauge train and we built on the board and it was fun. My love of trains grew from there. I remember taking a train in West Virginia called: The Cass Mountain Railroad.
It’s the State Park’s main attraction, a train ride to the overlook at Bald Knob. Bald Knob is the third highest point in West Virginia, making for a breathtaking views and amazing photos. The Durbin Greenbrier Valley Railroad operates scenic trains from historic downtown, including a 4.5-hour round-trip ride to Bald Knob and a two-hour round-trip excursion to Whittaker Station.
But I digress. This is about Snowpiercer. This train is a technological marvel although its engine is “eternal” it needs humanity as much as humanity needs it. The two are interconnected. From the sleek hi-tech engine to the 1,001st car, Snowpiercer brings you the best and worst in humanity. Director Bong Joon-ho, who I had the pleasure of interviewing at the WGA awards on 1 FEB 2020 for Parasite (Which he won the WGA award for) right before the COVID outbreak, and Oscar winner for Parasite, is a Korean filmmaker with a vision. I love his work.
Snowpiercer is a conglomeration of Marxism, divisions of economic classes with the haves and have-nots and of course murder, lovemaking, deal making, drugs, and of course, the now banned practice of cannibalism which Daveed assures us the Tailies have stopped. The train never stops after launching 7 years from the start of the series from Chicago. Only those who could “afford” to get on, could but a rush was made hence the Tailies. 400+ souls crammed in the back of the train with no windows and a port where your “arm” is wet down and stuck outside to freeze into a solid piece of ice and then hammered off after 2 minutes. That’s punishment for disobeying, creating trouble or an attempt to get into the forward cars. But, if you’re lucky, you could be put into one of the 1,000’s of cryo-drawers to sleep for, who knows, forever? Why are those drawers there anyway?
The tensions are between the classes: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and the tailies who come forward only to work in the crappy jobs like, sanitation. The wealthiest of society lives in shear comfort in the front of the train and are treated like royalty because they paid for it like royalty. Kind of sounds like those that paid for passage on one of the four Arks in the movie: 2012. Remember that one?
Snowpiercer is one of my most favorite shows along with others on Netflix, Amazon Prime, CBS All Access and Disney+. But TNT has become a force to be reckoned with, with the premiere of Snowpiercer and if Season 1 is this exciting, then I cannot wait for Sean Bean (Game of Thrones and Jupiter Ascending) and Steven Ogg (The Walking Dead) to come back because who knows, Steven Ogg might find a certain Jeffery Dean Morgan standing over his drawer with his most favorite baseball bat with his big smile! Go Negan!
Watch this train and join Snowpiercer every Sunday night at 9PM for the journey of a lifetime.
Here’s the actual audio interview with Steven Ogg:
Steven Ogg Uber Conference Transcript
Steven Ogg: Okay. Hello, sir. I apologize. All of this stuff it’s actually, it was quite simple. I don’t know how I made it complicated. I guess that’s part of my talent is I can take the most simplest fucking thing. We make it seem complicated.
Patrick Donovan: No, you’re good, man. How are you doing?
Steven Ogg: Doing all right. I think I, I like to say it’s kind of a good day. Bad day. Wash. Repeat.
Patrick Donovan: Yeah, it’s great to talk to you by the way. Thank you for taking the time. I’m going to go ahead and count down. We’ll get started and, there’ll be a silence and then we’ll jump right in. How’s that?
Steven Ogg: Alright, sir,
Patrick Donovan: I’m a DJ. So, have that DJ voice. So anyway. Thank you for joining me today, Steven. It’s a pleasure. Welcome to The Hollywood Times Interview Podcast. How are you and your family doing with this pandemic and are you and your family safe and healthy?
Steven Ogg: [00:01:26] I would say, yes! You know, everyone is everyone is doing, doing well. And I think it’s, you know, when you’re, when you’re vertical, it’s a good day. Right.
Patrick Donovan: I heard that every day, right? Every day you’re looking down at the grass instead of up at the roots is a good day. Right?
Steven Ogg: Yeah. I mean, you gotta just kinda count your blessings many more with, you know, as we know, far less, if nothing at all. So, you just have to kind of. Yeah, count those blessings when you got them and just be like, yeah, everyone’s good, everyone’s safe
Patrick Donovan: Cool. You were born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and you started out as a motion capture artist for Grand Theft Auto as Trevor Phillips and nominated for that role, including a VGX Award for best voice actor. Tell me about your early beginnings and being on GTA, please?
Steven Ogg: Well, I mean, I had the, you know, I’ve, I’ve acted since I was a kid, so I did see it or in Calgary growing up. And I mean, the GTA thing kind of came along after a bit of a lull when I had, spent some time building a country house and sort of stepped away from the business, of, you know, doing these New York guest star roles that one does and the theater, and the GTA was actually sort of a return to like, do I, you know, am I still do I still give a shit about acting? Do I still like, am I still invested emotionally in that? And that was an opportunity that came up to audition for that project, which again, I didn’t know, video games, it was just, I heard I got to be a cartoon character and I thought that was cool and it sort of reinvigorated my, my desire for acting and also realizing that for better, for worse, this is kind of, this is all I can do. This is my thing. This is what I’m here to do, so that’s what sort of brought me back into getting back on to the, the horse, if you will, of the business.
Patrick Donovan: That sounds great. My grandson loves playing GTA and all forms and versions of it. So, he really enjoys that. So that’s great. I’ll make sure I let them know that you are Trevor Phillips. How’s that?
Steven Ogg: Yes well, yes, I portrayed Trevor Phillips. Of course, it’s one of those things that has never, you know, people sometimes are like, oh, he gets, people seem to speak for me regarding GTA or that character. It was, you know, it was a motion capture so I’m proud of the performance because it was, you know, it, wasn’t just sitting around. Not that, you know, voice people that do that, just the voice overs in cartoons, not that they’re, I’m not comparing talent or anything, but I was more interested in becoming a cartoon character and that’s what this was.
And it was motion capture and I’m proud of the performance. So I really don’t get tired of people talking about it or saying it. I mean, It’s something I’m proud of. And I think it really captured something, literally.
Patrick Donovan: The motion capture, you wear a suit, don’t you? Is it a black suit with various computer points that pick you up? Is that how that works?
Steven Ogg: Yeah, you basically in a, like a spandex outfit with balls all over the place. And of course, when you have a bunch of, have a bunch of dudes around with balls on, those jokes, never get old.
You know, you tend to sound like a 12-year-old most of the time because the jokes are always the same for the entire time filming. And when you lose your balls and all of that, so you’re just, you know, you’ve got the motion capture and you’ve got the, the face, which is essentially captured with the camera. You have the camera and a microphone.
So your face is being captured as your movement is captured in a volume by the balls that are attached to the spandex.
Patrick Donovan: Wow.
Steven Ogg: It’s quite something.
Patrick Donovan: Yeah, I’m sure it is. After your professional career began with Law and Order, I mean, after GTA and everything, you were in Unforgettable as Larry Yablonsky and Broad City as the creepy locksmith and Better Call Saul, Westworld, Person of Interest and we all know you best, I’m going to say it, as Negan’s right hand in The Walking Dead. Please tell us about your past roles, which ones were significant on your career path.
Steven Ogg: You know, they all work as work. So, all work is good. And honestly, when it comes to, you know, I find time and time again with acting, it’s really more about the experiences of the people you meet, the places that you travel to, the opportunity, obviously with The Walking Dead was not only about working on the show with incredibly talented, wonderful people, which I’ve been incredibly blessed. I mean, Snowpiercer, Westworld Walking Dead, Broad City, I mean, all of these shows, have just been incredible experiences for the people.
And that’s honestly what I remember. Couldn’t really reflect upon a certain scene or a certain memory of work because it’s, it’s more the lunch you had or the dinner you had or the laugh you shared, or the story like Westworld I remember going, we were in a van, I think it was a Shannon and I, Shannon Woodward. And we were driving to melody rental or wherever we were shooting that day. And we had just sort of met, but within that 20-minute drive, I think we laughed. I know it sounds cheesy, but like we laughed, we cried.
We had this amazing conversation about life and that’s, what’s amazing about this sort of lifestyle. And these projects is when you work with the talented people, but you also get to experience emotional depth and emotional connection. It’s a really beautiful thing and those are the things that I tend to remember, with the cast and The Walking Dead was of course, an incredible experience and incredible cast where we then also got to travel all around the world and do these appearances, which was amazing, an amazing opportunity.
And, you know, very, very lucky to have experienced that and I was in a great group of people, many of whom, you know, still in touch with which is great.
Patrick Donovan: What this is all about. It’s a, it’s a people business. You know, like I mentioned, the beginning, I told you I’m a disc jockey and when I started doing weddings and stuff for 30 years, I introduced myself to people and I become part of their experience, part of their family, their backstory.
And I was there when they got married, man, and they laugh, they cry just like you said and I got pictures and I got letters and I touched their lives in that way and you’re doing exactly the same thing.
Steven Ogg: Well, and it’s a pretty, like that’s, that’s the one thing, especially when it comes to, you know, obviously with The Walking Dead, there was these Walker Stalker Con, these Comic Cons essentially ,right? Which I’ve obviously been because of Grand Theft Auto and all of that. I’ve been very, I’m fortunate to have those opportunities. And, you know, initially it was certain, I have to admit, I had a bit of a “poo-poo” with them because they are like, I’m an actor doing these things, cheapens my craft, then whatever all these things are, but then you realize…. listen, people go to hockey games, sports, well they did prior, old, old world and the old-world people did that.
Patrick Donovan: Yeah.
Steven Ogg: Yeah, not now, but, so you know, people would do these things spend 150 bucks the ticket. I remember going to a New York Rangers game and I was blown away how expensive it was. And then also, you know, $12 for a shitty beer.
Like people spend a lot of money for, for this, but of course, a lot of them are blue, you know, you see them blue color, like people that are having to get up at 6:00 AM to, you know, to, to work, but it makes them happy. So with these cons, realizing that sort of what your point is, these people really. enjoy themselves and they get great joy out of it.
So, if I’m up, if I’m on the receiving end or if I’m the one that provides that, who am I to judge how they get their experiences or what the, what makes them happy? I’m only here to say thank you. And that’s incredible that you. Find that joy. And I’m going to make sure that you get an experience in a sense that you’ll remember, because I, I feel, you know, they’re always like, Oh, so thankful so I’m like, what are you talking about? You’re the one that’s paying to get into these things. I’d better at least make you feel good and have a connection with you because how fortunate that I’m in that position to make you feel good. That was a complete side tangent. That was a complete side thing on Comic Cons but there you have it.
Patrick Donovan: No, it’s fine. I get it, man, because I did my own Star Trek convention in 1992. I brought thousands of people over in Rockville, Maryland, and had five of the stars there and it was just an incredible experience. I mean, it just, I made their weekend.
Steven Ogg: Yeah!
Patrick Donovan: And I’m so happy. I was able to do that for them, you know.
Steven Ogg: It’s amazing, it’s a gift!
Patrick Donovan: I’m a trumpet player and I do the same thing with music when I’m out there playing horn in a band when I was a Navy band, just an incredible high, man. So, yeah, I get it. And you’re right. You’re on the set of Snowpiercer. I heard they have a grip that shakes the train car set to give it a movement and hardly any green screens. What’s it like working in that set, please.
Steven Ogg: I mean, it’s incredible. No, they have almost like old school filmmaking. You know, the train is literally movement from, yeah. I mean, it’s from, it’s more than one grip. It’s people on the side of the train. With two by fours, essentially moving this thing up and down and the set itself, you know, they’re there, they’re trains, I mean, you’re on a train and it’s just that design, what they have done is incredible. I mean, you just step on to that world and you’re in it. Obviously the tail’s where my character resides is very claustrophobic, dark place, but again, amazing detail. Like you go to the bunks and you see the books and you see the rat skin that they’ve made into items.
And it’s, it’s an incredible, incredible man, a third class market, which is this incredible art installation. I call it. It just has the, what they’ve done for that is, is amazing. So it’s the job they did on that. It is phenomenal. And it was funny cause actually the moving of the train was something they had warned us about.
The train is going to be moving. But of course, the first day when you’re your first time shooting on the set and you know, and then you got your lines and your okay. And action. And as soon as action and that train started to move. Just all the lines went out the window, just like, who am I? What am I had? No, cause you’re having to you’re you’re literally rocking back and forth. I completely forgot all the lines and you’re like, blah, blah, blah, right?
Patrick Donovan: Basically, just let it fly.
Steven Ogg: They, they just, they realized that, Oh, okay. You weren’t ready for that one? We’ll start again. Let’s go for a, take two.
Patrick Donovan: You know, I saw your character was awakened last Sunday, and it seems like Pike, himself, has his own set of dirty little secrets about Andre Layton. And what can you tell us about what’s coming that you probably can’t tell us about or what were you thinking and dreaming about while you’re in that drawer and was that seeing claustrophobic for you?
Steven Ogg: Well, you know, put in briefly, right? And then the, the end of it is you can see light at the end as you slide in. So, I’m not a little claustrophobic myself. So that wasn’t a problem. I wish, you know, I wish Happy Anderson who played the doctor, who I also worked with in the Tick.
I wish we had a little more time to spend, you know, a sponge bath or shaving me or giving me a haircut. I wish we had a little more time together with, I was in the drawers. Well, you know, you’re basically put into a state of sleep. I mean, don’t really. Obviously Strong Boy came out and he was, speaking Mandarin.
So, it’s a, it’s quite a different experience being in there. And then, you know, coming out, I mean, less than Pike is a survivor. And he’s, you know, this, we joined Snowpiercer seven years into this journey. So, when you think of the relationship between Layton and Pike, these two guys have essentially been in prison together, right? For seven years!
It changes people. It, it, you might start out one way and you turn into another, but this is after seven years, a lot has happened that obviously we don’t get to see because we’re not privy. The audience is not privy to that, but a lot happens. And so we pick up the story where it’s surviving and it’s trying different things.
And Pike obviously loved Layton, like a brother. But as we know with families, that was going to be the biggest rivalries of all right? And what happens to family members?
Patrick Donovan: Yeah. And you become a family.
Steven Ogg: Yeah.
Patrick Donovan: So, it leads me to my next question. About your perspective on Pike, who is he? What’s he all about? Give us a little bit of his backstory. Where does he come from, if you can?
Steven Ogg: I mean, Pike is, you know, pike is a survivor. He, he’s, he’s been on this train for seven years. He’s he fought like everyone else to get on it. He believes in a certain, you know, there needs to be obviously some equality on the train, in, regarding, you know, that he’s. The first class has sushi and they’re eating bug bars.
It just doesn’t seem right. the tail is not comprised of prisoners. it’s comprised of the people that couldn’t afford to get on the train. So, it’s sort of like, you know, I mean, it’s constant comparisons to, you know, you can always compare. Listen, this is, this is history and history just repeats itself.
But you know, if you think of like they were talking, I was reading an article or hearing about a vaccine for COVID and it was the, you know, $3,000 for five days of this pill. Wow, who can afford that? We know who can afford that. The first class can afford that, but then how about everyone else? So no, no one else deserves to survive or live because they can’t afford it.
So, it’s the same thing with Snowpiercer, on the train. And Pike is part of that. Hey, we deserve some equality. We deserve more than we’re getting. Haves and have nots. And, so he just, you know, he wants to survive. I think he can be quite selfish, but by being selfish, it also allows others to survive. Right?
Patrick Donovan: Exactly.
Steven Ogg: He’s doing what he can.
Patrick Donovan: And I’m seeing that well, and the chocolate cake you’re eating, he said, give it a little bit more of that and I’ll tell you whatever you want. You know it’s like, you’re getting something you want and they’re going to get something they want. And now it all culminates this Sunday. And Snowpiercer seems like a smattering of Marxism social classes, military all rolled into one. And you touched on this. How do you believe that we’ll continue to work on the train or not work? And do you think it’s addressing in any of our current events because I know Bong Joon Ho did that with the original movie, with Chris Evans, he addressed these things.
Steven Ogg: Yeah. And I think that’s part of it is like, that’s, I think we, you know, it can be addressed in such a way that again, you don’t have to hammer people over the head.
And I certainly appreciate when I’m not treated like a dummy. So, I think what they have done is, you know, you don’t, you don’t want to pander to the lowest common denominator, but you also want to reflect the times. I mean, but again, it’s, it’s history. Like people could say climate change and. There are all these comparisons to that and honestly, the thing I kind of gravitate towards and I say, it’s about it’s the haves and the have nots! That’s it for me, honestly.
Patrick Donovan: And here we are today about the same thing about the haves and have nots in our own society today. And it touches on that exactly that’s what I’m getting out of this. We got the back of the train and the middle, and you got the “haves!” That people would get the big tax cuts and the people in the back are really struggling.
And the people in the middle are barely making it, the people in the front. Well, they’re just doing all fine and dandy. And here you are, saying, you know what, give me another piece of that cake, let me see what I can do for you and Andre taken the approach of, I want to unite the train, but you have a different agenda and now there’s going to be some massive conflict. I see coming up and I heard Sean Bean, maybe making an appearance.
[pregnant pause]
Steven Ogg: Ooooooh!
Patrick Donovan: [rolling laughter]
Steven Ogg: That’ll be exciting!
Patrick Donovan: What if he’s in one of those thousand drawers? [belly laughter]
Steven Ogg: Yeah. And there was a lot of space.
Patrick Donovan: Yeah. What’s it like working with Jennifer Connelly?
Steven Ogg: I mean, Jennifer and I never had scenes together. Well, I think, yeah, we’re in a, we’re in some stuff together, but obviously, because I’m. Back in the tail. There was not a lot of time to work together you know, we’re all, it’s, it’s funny because it’s kind of like the, The Walking Dead, you don’t always get to work with everyone because you’re in different…. you know, you’re in different sections. So obviously that, you know, Jennifer’s in the, in a, in a different part of the train. So there’s not a lot of interaction ,with the Jennifer and you know, and my character, but of course, you know, on set, it’s all great when you get to see each other and, you know, she’s an incredible actress that I admired from her, her work has been {ooof!} pretty amazing.
Patrick Donovan: Oh yeah.
Steven Ogg: And it was funny actually, that. The one interaction that I will share with, with Jennifer, which was at the initial table read back in Vancouver, you know, whatever year it was on, I was wearing a, I have a tee shirt that has David Bowie, on it, the mugshot from when he was arrested.
Patrick Donovan: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Steven Ogg: So everyone was, “Cool. T-shirt, Cool. T-shirt,” and so we ended up at one point in the break talking about a Bowie experiences. Like, who’s your, what’s your favorite Bowie song? And I was like, yeah, you know, I saw him in the West yeah. I think it was the West village. I saw him and he’s just had this energy and it was incredible.
And then I think it was generous, you know, any favorite Bowie song. And of course, then she said, “Actually I worked with him,” and then you realize, oh shit, she was in Labyrinth. This is a woman is rather iconic and quite a legend. I mean, she was in Labyrinth with David Bowie when she was 14 or whatever.
Patrick Donovan: God, I didn’t know that?
Steven Ogg: Yeah.
Patrick Donovan: I didn’t do my homework on IMDB.
Steven Ogg: Okay. Those are the things, again that you tend to remember, right? These life experiences more so than the work itself, the work, the work is a fart in the room, man. You do it. You do, you know, you walk out, and you just leave behind what it is.
Patrick Donovan: That’s really cool. I’m looking forward to season two if they can get it launched and the way they are. me too, with all this new normal that we’re going to be going through. And, Hollywood’s changing man, it’s going to be difficult, but we’ll make it through like everything else that we’ve done in this world as humanity. And, you know, the first thing I think about because of COVID, is War of the Worlds and how they all die because of a virus that we’ve already been immune to. and eventually
Steven Ogg: It’ll be an interesting time.
Patrick Donovan: It is, and you know, and trying to realize there’s something else coming down the pike. Oh, here we go with season two of the virus. Right?
Steven Ogg: There’s always something else coming.
Patrick Donovan: Exactly. It’s happened before it’ll happen again, and humanity must evolve. So anyway, I would like to move into something that. It’s a homage to the late James Lipton who passed away in the 2nd of March of this year and Inside the Actor’s Studio.
Steven Ogg: I didn’t realize he had died.
Patrick Donovan: Yeah, he did March, he was 93 and he passed away
Steven Ogg: 93?
Patrick Donovan: Yeah, I loved watching those shows.
Steven Ogg: I used to love that too.
Patrick Donovan: So, we’re going to delve into his world. You ready?
Steven Ogg: Ok. I will, I will. I’ll go for it.
Patrick Donovan: What is your favorite word?
Steven Ogg: Hope!
Patrick Donovan: Good. What is your least favorite word?
Steven Ogg: Pandemic!
Patrick Donovan: I agree. What turns you on?
Steven Ogg: Adventure
Patrick Donovan: What turns you off?
Steven Ogg: Ignorance.
Patrick Donovan: What sound or noise do you love?
Steven Ogg: Uncontrollable Diddy Valley. Laughter.
Patrick Donovan: That’s cool isn’t though? When someone does that, because laughter is the best medicine isn’t it?
Steven Ogg: Well, just that uncontrollable. It’s like, I love watching blooper reels or I love when you just have that moment where you’re just, you can’t stop laughing. You’re just you’re giddy and you’re giggling and you’re snorting and you’re making all sorts of sounds. I love that.
Patrick Donovan: What sound or noise do you hate?
Steven Ogg: Construction. City noise.
Patrick Donovan: You’re the fourth.
Steven Ogg: Really?
Patrick Donovan: Yes.
Steven Ogg: I mean, I lived in the city for 25 years, but I don’t, the city noise drives me nuts.
Patrick Donovan: I grew up in Rochester, New York Upstate.
Steven Ogg: Nice
Patrick Donovan: Yeah. What profession, other than your own, would you like to attempt
Steven Ogg: Architect?
Patrick Donovan: I do that. I got a structural design background, civil engineering, and architectural specialty. So yeah, it’s a lot of fun.
Steven Ogg: Wow.
Patrick Donovan: You’d enjoy it now.
Steven Ogg: Architecture, landscape buildings, anything.
Patrick Donovan: You know why? Cause you create just like, as an actor, you create that character. I create something wonderful, you know, that people will remember.
Steven Ogg: Mmm, hmm.
Patrick Donovan: What profession would you not like to attempt
Steven Ogg: Lawyer?
Patrick Donovan: You’re the first person that’s said that. And finally, if heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say, when you arrive, at the Pearly Gates?
Steven Ogg: You can take your mask off in here
Patrick Donovan: …because you’re a real person, aren’t you? There’s nothing to be ashamed of or afraid of.
Steven Ogg: It could be a literal. I mean, in that, in that, in that instance, I literally meant the mask that we wear around to protect ourselves and protect us.
Patrick Donovan: Oh, OH! I get it, I’m stupid, sorry.
Steven Ogg: No, not at all. You went to, you went to the next level on it, which is both. That could be the, the same thing. I mean, take your mask off here. I meant literally your face mask, but then also, yeah, you can. Well, I’m not much to pretend. I don’t wear a mask much.
Patrick Donovan: But don’t, we all have our masks on, even when we’re not wearing one in some respects,
Steven Ogg: Of course.
Patrick Donovan: Because we’re afraid of exposing ourselves, of who we really are.
Steven Ogg: Yeah. Yes
Patrick Donovan: No, go ahead. Go ahead.
Steven Ogg: No, I was going to say, you know, that’s, that’s why it’s, you know, I wear my heart upon my sleeve, the gauze to Peck at, as Jago did. And it’s for better, for worse, but it’s, you also have to take pride in being, I take pride in being truthful about what I am and who I, who I am, and that includes all of the flaws. And that includes the good, the bad and the ugly.
Patrick Donovan: Good movie.
Steven Ogg: Yeah it was. Yeah. I’m not afraid to just be open and raw and honest and truthful, and it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but then you go drink another cup of tea, man.
Patrick Donovan: Or another good beer, I guess.
Steven Ogg: Yeah.
Patrick Donovan: With the last few minutes we have, I’m going to give you the mic like James used to do, and you can talk to our readers and listeners about anything you would like with the remaining time we have. Here’s your audience?
Steven Ogg: Well, I would say, I mean, this is such a crazy time right now. That one can, you know, there’s a lot of people, reflecting. There’s a lot of people, I don’t know if people are changing, but I think it’s certainly a time for people to take responsibility and understand that it’s a greater good, I mean, especially in our case, like California and Los Angeles right now is.
It seems like there’s going to be an impending lockdown again, because people just can’t do the right thing for the greater good. You have to literally, do what’s best for everyone. Be, you know…be it wear a mask social distance. Like don’t go into these groups because what’s happening is those that are, I think, ignorant and not doing the right thing we’ve seen the repercussions of such. So, it’d just be nice if everyone sort of, if everyone helped each other. And that includes the basic most common thing, which is kindness. you know, I don’t know if anything’s gonna really change.
There’s so much going on, in America right now. so much change needs to happen, but whether it will or not, I just, I don’t know, but I do know that one can be kind and one can be responsible and one can really look out for one another.
And that’s through kindness, that’s through, you know, protecting each other, being responsible, all of these things. So I think that’s no that’s, that’s what I’d say, is…take care of each other. Be kind, you know, you never know what someone else is going through. Right? You don’t know someone else’s story.
Patrick Donovan: No.
Steven Ogg: Be kind and be cool. Man. Life is short. Be kind love. Don’t waste your time doing shitty things.
Patrick Donovan: Well, listen, Steven, it’s been a total pleasure and an honor and privilege to speak to you this evening. I wish you the best in your career and we can’t wait until season two of Snowpiercer. What you have planned is going to be exciting.
Steven Ogg: I got to say season two, I’m super excited about not just because I’m around more, right? It’s a. I don’t know. I thought season two, just, you know, it just got better.
Patrick Donovan: Oh!
Steven Ogg: It’s just everything I saw. Just, it just got tighter.
Patrick Donovan: You guys shot it already or you’re going to be shooting it?
Steven Ogg: Season two. We’re we, we were two episodes from finishing.
Patrick Donovan: Wow.
Steven Ogg: So, we were, you know, obviously shut down, but yeah, we’ve got, we’ve got the majority of it in the can.
Patrick Donovan: As they say. Well you take care have a great evening my friend. It’s been a pleasure, sir.
Steven Ogg: You as well. Thank you so much. Stay safe, be well and take care of yourself.
Patrick Donovan: Yes, sir! Bye, bye.
Steven Ogg: Yes, cheers.
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